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italian court. was she in an argument with her roommate the night of the killing and why does she think she's one of the lucky ones? your "new day" starts right now. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate balduan, and michaela pereira. >> welcome to "new day." tgif on this may 2nd. it is 6:00 in the east. up first, nba owners wasting no time in an effort to put a for sale sign on the l.a. clippers. a ten-member committee held the first meeting yesterday and agreed to move quickly on booting donald sterling. this as we're hearing new reports from espn about sterling's health. the question, does he have canc cancer? another question, does it matter? ted rowlands is live in los angeles. ted? >> good morning, chris. a wild game last night on the court for the l.a. clippers. off the court, more developments in this on going saga.
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>> game seven coming up in los angeles on saturday. >> reporter: battling until the buzzer. the los angeles clippers losing in game six by just one point. the game overshadowed by donald sterling but overnight, a new complications. espn and the post reporting that donald sterling is battling prostate cancer. cnn has not been able too confirm but after the game players said they were not aware that sterling may have cancer but expressed their sympathies. >> if that is true, you know, you know, my thoughts and prayers are with him. i mean, nobody deserves to go through something like that. >> yeah, that's the first i've ever heard of that. that's truly unfortunate. >> reporter: coach doc rivers also reaked to the news. >> didn't know it until just now. you know, i don't have a reaction to that. you know, i hope it's not true.
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>> reporter: meanwhile, nba owners wasting no time in an effort to put a for sale sign on the l.a. clippers, ten members held the first meeting thursday and agreed to move as quickly as possible on the process of terminating sterling's ownership and plan to reconvene next week. amid the backlash of the controversy the president of the l.a. chapter of the naacp is stepping down over its since resended plans to give a lifetime achievement award to sterling saying, in a statement that he's resigning in order to, quote, separate the los angeles naacp and naacp from the negative exposure i have caused the naacp. and this morning's l.a. times has a report that in 1982, believe it or not, the nba tried to get rid of donald sterling over an audio tape. he was at a lunch clon and said he wanted his team to finish last to get the first round
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draft pick. apparently the same sent narrow kicked in. the subcommittee that met yesterday, the same type of committee met in '82, sterling ended upkeeping the team, waited on to the owners. audio tape almost cost him the team in '82 which is what he's looking at now. kate? >> all right. ted, thank you very much. let's take a turn right now to the violence happening overseas. it's been taking a deadly turn in ukraine. i want to get to our international correspondent nick paton walsh in eastern ukraine. violence is breaking out. what are you seeing on the ground right where you are? >> reporter: well, kate, you join me in sloviansk. casualties us caused on both sides. a helicopter taken out of the
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sky. according to the interior minister nine similar checkpoints like this have been taken over. there is cheering now amongst that crowd but moments ago they were angry because they said, one of the soldiers there, backed that up too, an old man was ran over. we saw blan answer taking somebody away from here. this is the standoff. local residents furious with the troops. re-enforced by a he'll continuer in flew in and dropped off 10, 15 more. these are serious soldiers. properly trained. we're not sure if they intend to move into the town. for now they have to deal with local hostility, people here just angry at what they did to the old man and their presence here, too. kate? >> nick, be careful as always over there. thank you very much for the update. it's a very unstable situation. he's in the middle of it right now. we've got the violence happening in ukraine as we speak. all of this is happening as president obama and german chancellor angela merkel are set
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to hold a high-stakes meeting at the white house. and merkel may be key in finding a peace solution. she is one of the few people that many say has the ear of russian president vladimir putin. for more on this, this high-stakes meeting let's get to senior washington correspondent joe johns at the white house this morning. good morning, joe. >> president obama meets with german chancellor angela merkel at a critical time as both countries are trying to put more pressure on russian president vladimir putin to de-escalate tensions in ukraine. once again, the obama administration finds itself walking a foreign policy tightrope. no doubt they will discuss more economic sanctions on russia but at some point the real question is whether tightening the screws on a major trading partner ceases to be in the interest of the german government. >> joe, a bit of a turn. another problem, really one that's plagued the administration for quite some time now. i want to get your take on.
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new criticism coming at the administration for their handling on the violence in benghazi, the deadly events in benghazi. this e-mail from ben rhodes that came out, is it really a smoking gun as is being described by republicans or is this just more -- is this politicking as this issue has become a bit of a political football ahead of the midterms? >> well, it's a question of optics, kate. also a question of putting the obama administration back on defense with house republicans exploiting those newly disclosed documents that suggests the white house may have misled the public about the attack in benghazi that killed a u.s. ambassador. this all had quieted down but now sort of brought back into the limelight after the non-profit group judicial watch uncovered e-mails that appeared to -- designed basically to make the white house look good. so it's a problem of optics for the administration and question, of course, whether they were
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leveling with the american people in the attack. kate? >> the white house, of course, doesn't want any of this criticism but i think it's kind of valid to continue to conversation of why no one really faced the music yet and really been held responsible for the events that happened in benghazi. though that is separate from what the intention of this e-mail was which kind of is why there's always politics involved. when it involves republicans and the president. joe johns at the white house, thank you. chris? so the big question is, is the president the reason ukraine is out of control? or are sanctions going to be the solution? what about this other foreign political scandal benghazi? is it back and bigger than ever? let's get some take here. maggie, cnn political analyst, writer for politico. context, how hot is it right now in the white house? how big a moment is this? >> this is a very big moment. he's going to meet with merkel later today. they are going to be focusing on a number of issues. they have not met since the nsa
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spying issue related to her came out and her cellphone being tapped. they're going to talk about ukraine. the president is under pressure from republicans to do more, act harder, act more forcefully. the american people don't want more action. they think the sanctions he's enak red appropriate. the white house argues they're working. some people argue not so much. it might be a psychological impact. people fear more sanctions down the road. we have to wait and see. >> you use the word impact. do you think it is fair to see the president in the situation as more having an impact on the problem or on the potential for a solution? >> it is too early to tell what he is having the impact on. the white house argues they are absolutely impacting a solution that they are forcing an instability in russia. russia is going to see and want to move away way from. there is no evidence that that is true and european leaders are nervous about going too hard on this. >> we wouldn't be where we are right now if he had been tougher with putin? >> very broad criticism that is
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hard to substantiate. >> sanctions will work. he needs angela merkel for that to be a true proposition. >> correct. >> so tied to the need for gas, so tied to investment in russia. >> yes. >> what is the leverage to get merkel on the side of the u.s. president? >> it's very difficult. he doesn't have a whole lot of leverage other than arguing if the situation spins out of control this becomes a global problem. there are -- look, european leaders don't want to see this become more dangerous. they don't want to see russia continue with a push. so the leverage is essentially join me or we all have a much bigger problem. everyone is mindful of that. right now european leaders don't feel it the same way. >> merkel says, remind me why i care? i want my gas. i don't want particularly care about yearn ukraine, if they really want to go that way, they go that way. syria and iran, i keep telling you, mr. president, that he is a reasonable force there on some levels. give him an opening. >> psa spied on me recently. i recently trust is not really
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there. this is going to be a very, very interesting conversation at the white house. and it is difficult to -- it is difficult to make the argument that it's going to emerge successfully right now. we'll see. >> benghazi, the e-mail comes out. the white house was saying this was about malaysian, pro militia groups. you knew it all along. you tried to spin it. fair criticism? >> if it's true, their argument is this is cut and paste. this does not change our argument we did not author he's talking points. the other criticism is that you withheld this from us, coming from republicans in congress. we asked for cogments like this. you didn't release it to us. you did release it to judicial watch. that's a very fair request. that is going to give this much more legs than it would otherwise have. >> is this yellow cake? is this wmd analysis from the walk war build-up? >> this is -- i think that's a bit hard to say. i think that this is new information in a case that had
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run a bit cold for republicans tracking it in congress and this is a very, very hot issue with republicans in midterm. the base really likes this issue. to that end, it keeps it going. >> what's the chance that they make a dispositive case, they make a case to the american people, the republicans, that the white house did a cover up? >> another smoking gun, that case will go easily. but right now based on the ben rhodes e-mail while it doesn't look great and while jay carney had a rough day at the podium over it, too soon to say. >> smoking gun on anything, you're in good shape. >> it does. this is not the smoking gun but it is problematic. >> so then we turn to who will be the next t president here? maybe we get insight from a president on this. take a listen to what president george bush said to jake tapper. >> i hope jeb runs. i think he would be a great president. i have no clue what's on his mind. and we will talk when he's ready. as he said publicly, i'm
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thinking about my family. he knows full well what run for the presidency can do on family. after all, he has seen his dad and brother run for president. i hope he runs. hey, jeb, if you need some advice, give me a call. >> the chance that they have never discussed this is and options are zero or zero? >> the option -- i'm going to go with zero. does that work for you? >> i think it's fair. >> the options they have never discussed this is very, very hard to contemplate. how deeply they discuss it, how frequently, you can get into that. i'm not sure they're the closest of brothers. it's hard to imagine this has never come up. as jeb in the last two years that he has been looking at this has never picked up the phone and given his brother a call as his brother requested. >> can a family member say, i don't think they should run? >> well, his mother has done a pretty good job of that. >> mom has got to be protective. we're all so mean in the media. all we do is attack people who run for office. what mother would want that? >> i think she's acting out of appropriate concern as a wife of a former president and mother of a former president.
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she's honest about it. you don't hear that very often. other than that you're not hearing any family member say, jeb, don't run. his wife is not particularly interested in this because that is said privately. >> although i will say that people do give a little bit too much credit to the allure being in politics as if we're like a royal situation. it's a lot of pain and a lot of strain on a family. they're aware of that as well. polls aren't great for him against hillary even in his home state of florida. >> not so much. he's been out of office for a long time and has not run a campaign in 12 years. >> it's always interesting to hear family talk about family. >> sure. >> maggie, thank you very much. thanks. let's look at more of your headlines. breaking overnight, new satellite images seem to show north korea may be testing the engine for a possible nuclear missile. so say analysts at johns hopkins university. this comes as kim jong-un's regime could be drawing closer to a nuclear test at the same facility it has conducted other
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tests since 2006. a minnesota teen facing charges this morning after allegedly plotting a killing free. police say a 17-year-old planned to murder his family and set off bombs at his school. that teen was less than two weeks away from carrying it out when mpolice discovered the plo after receiving a phone tip. they found three fully functioning bombs and numerous firearms at his home and in a storage locker. he faces four counts of attempted murder and explosive charges. e iing statistics on sexual violence. it is the first time the department of education has released a list of all current investigations. shocking numbers from the u.s. military as well. according to the pentagon, reports of sexual assaults in the military spiked by an unprecedented 50% last year. i want that to sink?
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>> i know. we were given it -- startling statistics. >> giving it the pause there. 50%. >> the wrong direction. we know way too much. reporting is supposed to be increasing and it's not. that's really worrisome. >> abs lieuly right. as we head into the weekend, nothing more important than the weather so let's get to meteorologist indra petersons tracking everything going on. what do you see? >> the question is are you sick of the rain? too bad. we're still going to be talking about more showers. so much of this rain is still from this same system. the good news, it has weakened but it is still hanging on. may be seeing more lingering showers through florida. also keep in mind it's not the only thing going up in the northeast and upper midwest. see the spin. this guy is bringing light showers in through today as well. behind it, another system for the weekend. you could see the difference. there's the cold front lingering today in through florida and here comes the next system that's going to be hampering your weekend in through saturday and sunday if you're into the northeast. let's talk about how much rain. here's the plus side.
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it's not as bad as unless you're in through southern florida and good news, yes, there's heavier rain in florida but not in the panhandle. either way, they're not able to dry out after all that heavy rain they saw yesterday or so. now we're looking at one to two inches of rain in the midwest and northeast. most of the time you're going to see cloudy conditions. partly cloudy. sprinkles here and there. it's not the worst weekend. the upside, jet stream, the sky is lifting up. . yes, the cold airlifting up. it's going to feel better out there for most of you, especially down to the south. it may almost get too hot for you. hot and muggy. temperaturewi temperaturewise, new york city, 40s. starting to see some 60s. feels better. notice the 70s down to the southeast. and may start getting cool here in the upper midwest thanks to the system. look at the dimpss the jet stream lives up. temperatures go right back up with almost gets plain old hot. couple of sprinkles. it was a rough week getting better. >> for a lot of people. >> yeah. >> thanks. >> sure. coming up next on "new day," malaysian officials say they
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have nothing to hide, they say. and promised more communications with the families of flight 370 passengers. government officials there just held a briefing. what they're saying now about the next phase in this investigation. [ female announcer ] grow, it's what we do. but when we put something in the ground, feed it, and care for it, don't we grow something more? we grow big celebrations, and personal victories. we grow new beginnings, and better endings. grand gestures, and perfect quiet. we grow escape, bragging rights, happier happy hours. so let's gro something greater with miracle-gro. what will you grow? share your story at miraclegro.com.
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welcome back to "new day." we just heard from malaysia's transport minister who is insist that officials have nothing to hide there. that comes on the heels of the report released by malaysia which shows i guess what we can describe as mass confusion after flight 370 disappeared. let's take a closer look at the report and the investigation with dade soucie, author of "why planes crash," former faa inspector, and major james "spider" marks. good morning to both of you. >> good morning, kate. >> good morning, kate. >> two of the numbers that stick out from the report, david, 17 minutes after -- it was 17 minutes after the plane had disappeared before anyone seemed to have noticed, according to this report. and then four hours before any search effort was initiated. that seems like, to be nice and to be kind, that seems like
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mistakes were made. but that seems like a whole lot of mistakes that were not corrected in time. >> let's talk about 17 minutes first. that's at the transition period. when you're going from one control area to the next control area. 17 minutes while it is a little bit extensive, it's not unordinary at all. that's something that you might expect. the other part, the four hours, now, this is something that troubled us in 9/11 is this communication, the military knew what was going on. they knew where that aircraft was during that four hours. pre- 9/11 we had the same situation. the military knew what was going on and could see the aircraft but couldn't identify who they were and what they belonged to. now in the united states it's much different. turn communications there, they know that. inmalaysia, they didn't. >> that four-hour gap, in this report, while they're still nowhere near the amount of detail we need to get us further
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in this investigation, this four-hour gap, do you believe this is the biggest glaring mistake sticking out in this report? >> it's not a mistake. it's a systemic failure. there's a big difference. >> it sounds worse. >> it is. it's much worse. that's why it needs to be corrected and icao needs to step in and make sure all of the other countries part of the icao nation are working together to accept our standards and their standards. this is supposed to be the best of the world. and all of those best standards need to be applied. icao has dropped the ball on this. this is something i assumed, i didn't know, i have to admit i didn't know they didn't have this. they should have this. there are many other things that reflect the same thing. >> spider, this leans on your expertise perfectly. i find it really surprising, i think anyone who travels internationally might be surprised. is there not an international protocol if our military radar speaks with -- or military raid rate operators speak with those in the united states, why
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doesn't that happen overseas? >> as david pointed out correct. post 9/11 our military and our civilian air controllers are completely synced and connected so they can have this handshakes not only electronically between the systems but also the operators, in many cases are side by side. you have situational awareness and shared pictures of the airspace. that part of the world it simply does not happen. the civilian aircraft, when it disappeared off the civilian r5id c radar and picked up by military radar, the other individual, the military guy didn't know he was getting a dot on his screen that had disappear fred somebody else's screen. there wasn't this alert, the standard process that should be in place. truly problems in life come down to character issues or competence issues in is a monster competence issue as david pointed out. it needs to be addressed in great detail. you've got to cover those gaps. this is where we as a matter of
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you te routine conduct operations. plus, when you have that type of gap how do you know the intention of that aircraft in the air? what's its attitude? what's its profile? is it hostile? what's going on. simply that didn't take place at all. >> spider, working off of the united states' example, is it an easy fix, to get military radar and civilian radar to get on the same page? is it an easy fix? does it come down to money or is it competence? >> the short answer, kate, is it is an easy fix. yes, it comes down to money. but it also has to do with the culture of how the military and how the civilian authorities interact. is there some acknowledgement that there needs to be a chain of command and a chain of responsibility and authority that exists within that entire organization that allows them to work without penalty? you know, there's -- the thing that circles all of this is hubris. there's pride involved in this. and folks want to do the right thing. then things go sideways and bad things occur, people start
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making bad decisions unless they know they are accountable and they can act within those authorities. clearly, there is an easy fix in place. it's amazing that we're not further down the road. >> one quick final question on this, david. so if -- if the radar operators had been communicating, if this four-hour gap was down to something more acceptable to maybe 30 minutes or one hour before a rescue search mission was put up there and people were on high alert, would the outcome, do you think, have been different, would we be in a different place today than where we are in the search for this plane? >> hind site is always perfect. if that happened in the united states now, and it does occasionally happen where aircraft drop off radar, we do have aircraft to go up and intercept. >> it happens all the time when i was in washington. anything enters washington's airspace. >> that's right. even as far back as payne stewart, remember that accident, when that aircraft was flying alone, there were aircraft dispatched and that aircraft was followed down. that didn't drop off radar so it was a little bit different situation. but none the less, even back
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then we had that awareness. as spider mentioned, it's the culture issue. the culture issue not only of whether or not it's pride or what they're doing or it's also this firewall idea, the firewall between civilian and military and their separate roles and merging those. at least coordinating those two things together. we used to have a firewall within the cia, within the fbi, that's breaking down. we're finding ways to communicate between those cultures. that's what's important. >> bad echos of pre 9/11 is what we're seeing come out in this report. this says nothing though about the fact that the search continues to be under way. we still are searching in the southern indian ocean. they think it's still in the same place. we're no further along in that. that is separate from how do can you make sure it doesn't happen again. let's continue the conversation later in the show though. david, spider, thank you so much. amanda knox has given one interview and you can only see it here. can she convince you she was not
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there the night meredith kercher died, that the judge is wrong about the proof that knox is the one who killed her? she opens up as never before. woman: this is not exactly what i expected. man: definitely more murdery than the reviews said. captain obvious: this is a creepy room. man: oh hey, captain obvious. captain obvious: you should have used hotels.com. their genuine guest reviews are written by guests who have genuinely stayed there. instead of people who lie on the internet. son: look, a finger. captain: that's unsettling. man: you think? captain: all the time. except when i sleep. which i would not do here. hotels.com would have mentioned the finger.
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>> why do you think that this judge goes further than any other, that not only does he say this is the knife, not only does he say that you had it because of dn, a around the bottom of the blade, but because you were the one that actually killed meredith kercher? >> i believe -- i mean, i can't speculate what this judge's motivations are, personal motivation or otherwise. what i can say is that as this case has progressed, the evidence that the prosecution has claimed exists against me has been proven less and less and less. and all that has happened is that they've filled these holes with speculation. i -- i did not kill my friend.
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i did not wield the knife. i had no reason to. i -- i was in the month that we were living together, we were becoming friends. a week before the murder occurred we went out to a classical music concert together. we had never fought. and the idea, i mean, he's brought up lots of things, crazy motives. >> he doesn't agree with anything that you're saying right now, specific to the relationship, right? this judge believes that this fight was about money and that you stole money from your roommate and that that is what started this violent night. is there truth to that? >> absolutely not. he's getting this from rudy gaday who subpoena kis coming u these things for self interest. the truth of the matter is, one, i had no criminal record so i am not the type of person who is
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going to violently kill someone for any reason. and furthermore, i -- i had saved up to go to italy. i was not in need of stealing any money. unlike rudy gaday who was a known thief, who was a known burglar, who did this on a regular basis to survive. and why they would think that i was a thief when in meredith's own purse there are rudy gaday's fingerprints. it's based on nothing. >> to step through what he sees as the fact pattern of that night and literally it almost as like a yes/no list. were you and your boyfriend hanging out in the piazza outside your building that night? >> no. >> did you let rudy gaday into your apartment? >> no. >> were you with rudy gaday in your apartment that night? >> no. >> was there a fight over money
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with meredith kercher witnessed by rudy gaday? >> no. >> and you're saying to me tonight what is almost impossible is that you were in the room that night, you had a knife in your happened, and that you helped kilmer dit kercher? >> absolutely because my dna, any trace of me is not there. when you're talking about traces of me that they attribute to the crime scene they're talking about my dna in my own bathroom or my footsteps that tested negative for blood that had my dna and meredith's dna on the floor between our bedrooms and the bathroom. well, of course, our dna was there. we lived there for a month. it was there it tested negative for blood so it wasn n'n't bloo. so it's irrelevant to the crime. we're talking about the crime that happened in meredith's bedroom. there is no trace of us. if rudy gaday committed this crime, which he did we know that because his dna is there on meredith's body, around meredith's body, his handprints
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and good prints in her blood. none of that exists for me. if i were there i would have traces of meredith east broken body on me and i would have left traces of myself around meredith's corpse and i -- i am not there and that proves my innocence. >> it started in 2007. it is now 2014. for you and your life, is it present day? are you able to be present in this day? are you still trapped? 2007? >> it's definitely a limbo. my entire adult life has been weighed down and taken over by this tremendous mess, this -- i mean, on the one hand, i have my
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life in seattle. i get to go to school. i get to be with my family, my friends. and i'm so grateful to have them. they really help me get through this. and to know that there are people who believe me. and then on the other hand there's this huge weight and there's this huge struggle and trying to learn each step of the way, what -- what's so wrong and how i can fix it. i guess -- i guess i'm just one of the lucky ones. >> how so? >> because i'm actually -- i'm actually supported by people and people have looked into my case as opposed to have forgotten me. and people who know about what kinds of things happen to lead to wrongful convictions have
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come out and said things in support of me. and that's -- that has made a huge difference in my life. i don't feel as alone as i could. >> from 20 until 27 dealing with being a murderer. that has been life with the reality for amanda knox. that speculation that she is a murderer. so did she convince you? thousands of you are taping experts last night, debating it. use the #newday. get that cnn app, it's a good reason to have it because you can see everything that we heard last night, join the debate, and i'll answer as many questions as i can. >> this is the second extensive interview you've done with her. she seems older. she is. and more sure of herself even a year later. it's been about a year since you last interviewed her. >> she lives the record of this case. the last time you can find that online, also, it was a much more
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severe testing of her story. that is what she asked for at that time. and i was happy to deliver that. i thought it was necessary. this is about responding to the judge. but both are important and, again, it all lives online. you can watch it and get involved in the discusson. >> she's been living with this for so many years at this point. >> only gets one more bite at the apple. if the supreme court affirms this decision it's over as far as italy's concerned and then it's just about what the u.s. will do vis-a-vis extradition. coming up next on "new day," nba owners moving quickly, holding their first meeting to discuss forcing l.a. clippers owner donald sterling out but can they make him go? that still is a question. we're going to talk about it next. i've quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. for the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq.
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sterling fight back? that's many people say that's assured. let's bring in bradley sheer, attorney and professor of sports management at george washington university to try figure this all out. bradley, let's figure this out in four minutes or less. it's going to be easy for us to do. the league's owners met yesterday. they said they were unanimous that they wanted to move forward as expeditiously as possible is how they described it in trying to get sterling to force a sale. you don't think this is a slam dunk though. why? >> well, it might not be a slam dunk in the fact that nothing in the constitution says that they can remove an owner for racist comments. however, there is a clause in the constitution that states that the commissioner may make recommendations and that the ownership committee can vote for something regarding the interest interest of the game. so i think that's where the commissioner really has the authority here regarding being able to remove him because of the best interest of the game
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clause in the constitution. >> it's really interesting because it's coming out that this is not the first time that the nba has tried to force sterling out. different circumstances, seemed like the same process. and then it was back in the '80s. it all revolved around an audio tape as well. that effort fizzled out and lost steam. how do you think this one is going to turn out any differently? >> well, i think this is going to turn out much differently because in this day and age, especially with social media, there's a huge outrage to have him removed. and also because of the fak that it seems that silver is emboldened to make sure that it happens. so i think that in the end, sterling is going to be removed from ownership of the clippers. >> what do you think sterling's move is though? >> well, his next move would probably be just to follow the process. right now the process is ongoing. soon he will be notified about the -- officially notified about the next steps. and then once a hearing has been
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held, then after that there will be a vote. and if 23 or more of his fellow owners vote to remove him, then the process basically is that he is gone. and he doesn't really have much legal recourse after that. >> many people think though that he can drag this out. he's been litigious. he's known for that, that he can drag this out for years. how does he do that? >> he the can drag it out and file an injunction. however, the constitution is pretty clear on this matter. as far as the ownership goes, if the owners vote to have him terminated from his franchise, they have the authority to do it and they don't need a kour of law to basically do some type of rubber-stamp on it saying that the nba has the authority. they already have it in the constitution. so that's why i really think that the nba's hand is much stronger than some people may believe. >> what do you think about this setting a bad precedent? there is some talk about this for owners, players. does this process, if it moves
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forward an he's forced to sell the team, does it open other owners up to be forced to sell their teams, put aside the fact that he did say reprehensible remarks. if they say similar things, will they have to do the same? >> i don't want to speculate but it raises the question that what is the type of behavior to cause the nba to remove someone from ownership of a team. it is a worry of some owners. however, i think it's a very unique situation. this has not happened in the past. i believe that the nba is acting swiftly enforce its regulations. >> yeah. don't say such horrible things or you won't be in the same situation. good advice for everybody in the nba and outside. thank you so much, chris? >> for good reason what was said by donald sterling has overshadowed what is turning out to be an amazing nba playoffs. let's look at the game highlights. andy, give us the good news. >> hey, well, the good news is, chris, what an amazing first round this has been thus far. i'm losing sleep watching all of
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these great games. three more elimination games last night. one of them kevin durant, the thunder were in memphis taking on the grizzlies. the thunder's local newspaper not happy being down 3-2 in the series. check out the headline from thursday's morning edition. took a shot at durant calling him "mr. unreliable." fans were outraged and the paper quickly apologized. last night durant, he was mr. dependable. he poured in 36 points as the thunder crushed the grizzlies, 104-84. forcing a game seven on saturday. turning on bleacherreport.com this morning, the hawkss looking to become the sixth eight seed ever to win a series. things are chippy early on in this one. mark scott and george hill get into it. no punches were thrown from either team. the hawks had the lead in the fourth quarter in this game but david west took over for the pacers leading them on a 16-4 run to close out the game. pacers get the win. so for the first time ever we're
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going have three game sevens in the first round on the same day. that's going to be on saturday. tonight, guys, we have three more game six wees. should be some more great basketball on tap. i'm losing sleep every night watching all of these great games. >> good reason to lose sleep though, andy. come on. don't complain. >> i'm not complaining. i want my rockets to win tonight. that's what i want the most. >> oh. can your boy lynn take care of business? >> we need another night of lynn sanity. >> i love to see the media punished when it falls to hate. going after kevin durant, they deserve to be punished. good port people. >> the people! coming up next on "new day," malaysian officials throwing more cold water this morning on reports that flight 370 could be in the bay of bengal. that's thousands of miles away from where the search efforts are focused ride now. our experts are going to weigh in as well. [ hypnotist ] you are feeling satisfied
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we are taking a closer look this morning at the new details of malaysia's preliminary report of the disappearance of flight 370. certainly a lot of questions, like why did it take hours for malaysia to activate its rescue center and how did so many
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countries miss the jet on radar? with us now michael kay, cnn aviation analyst and former adviser to the uk ministry of defense. you had a night to sit with this, look at this information. i think many of us are feeling that this might answer some questions but, in fact, it left more questions in our minds, hasn't it? >> yeah. i think what's happened is the report exposed the holes and giving us more information. i think we're expecting that, to be honest. >> we were. let's look at the map. we're on the giant map with the giant man. let's pull up some of the points that we have and the points of contact we know. what is remarkable to me, and i'm not an aviation analyst, is that there are many countries that would have been in communication and were in communication. there were reports and supplemental items that showed they were in constant communication but seemingly all in vain. is this exception or is this rule in this part of the country? >> well, we know that the faa have strict guidelines when it comes to the falling of
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aircraft. it's called overdue action. >> if you haven't heard from us -- >> if an aircraft isn't checking in on frequency, for example, 370 went from kuala lumpur was told to check in with ho chi minh, if it hasn't checked in on frequency with ho chi minh in 30 minutes, area controls have to take overdue action and the aircraft is then considered in an emergency status. >> that's the faa. this is not the body that restricts this part of the world. >> it's not. we're not sure where icao adopted this procedure. however, one of the things that the faa says is that after 30 minutes if you do not have communications or you do not have that aircraft on radar you are to alert the rcc, the rescue coordination center. >> which brings the next big question. >> that's the benchmark, yet we know from looking at this report then, four, almost five hours pass before that rescue system is alerted. >> yeah. i mean, the first red flag for
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me, michaela, is that 1:19 when 370 says good night, 370, the kuala lumpur, and ho chi minh and 120 decimal 9 is expecting that call. >> sure. >> now, we know on this timeline that at 1:38, which is 17 minutes or around 17 minutes after that, that handover, ho chi minh are going, kuala lumpur, we've not heard from 370. that's 17 minutes. that's a long time. why 30 minutes? it's all to do with search and rescue procedure. okay? so if we draw a line, a radius line out from that last noin known point and it's 30 minutes and the aircraft is traveling around 300 knots, that's about 150 miles. okay? that's 150-mile radius. on a search circle, that would be an area of around 70,000 square miles. okay? just to give you an indication, if it's five hours, that's 1500 miles. that circle goes to over 7 million square miles.
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>> in terms of what -- okay. so we know that there should have been a much quicker response and you mentioned that in that part there are so many things that should have been happening in those four hour '. is this the first point that when you think it got so much out of hand? >> it's a great question. it's a graduated response. okay. now, the french aviation authority, the bea, their lessons identify from air force 447 the chief search and rescue coordinator wrote a couple of key lessons identified from that. one of them is the reluctance of air traffic control to declare it. that was picked up. so it seems like something has gone wrong there. to your.the graduated response. what happens when an air controller sees something drop off the radar or not check in. they go to what's called a distress cell. in that diss stres distress cela myriad of communications, cellphones, all to try to talk with 370. they get nothing from that then they will be talking to other aircraft that are in the airways corridor. they will be trying everything
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to establish communications. but the bottom line is, if they don't get it they got to get the rcc. there's a timeline here of when -- >> i want to pull pull up one more animation. we have another animation we want to show which is the five -- the route. we know that it made this turn and then this is what they showed us in this preliminary report that there could have been five probable routes. talk to me about why the variation between these five. we have the highest probable, more north towards kuala lumpur. >> look, very quickly. they've been using -- they had to use assumptions based on the inmarsat analysis. they've been based on height and speed. if you look at the northern area, the high e. probable, the red that you can see there, that's an assumption based on an aircraft traveling 30,000 feet. the middle one, the yellow, that's a 15,000 feet and the green is 3,000 feet. now, the questions that we've got is that when an aircraft is traveling 30,000 feet, the fuel burn is less. therefore, it can go further.
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that's why aircraft travel at that altitude. why isn't that farther away than the assumption that's been made at 3,000 feet and why were the speeds that have been aligned to the different heights, why were they used? questions are still out there for us. >> so many questions still emerging just from this preliminary report and the supplementary pieces. michael kay, thank you for unpacking this for us. chris, over to you. all right, here are some of the big stories as you get ready to start your "new day." nba owners taking steps to force donald sterling out. flight 370, answers and experts will lay out the key questions. and president obamas has an important meeting with ukraine today close to imploding. let's get after all of it. espn and new york post reporting the disgraced owner donald sterling is battling prostate cancer. ukrainian troops launching as they're calling it this
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anti-terrorism operation. sex assaults in the military is up by half. our commitment to finding mh370. >> malaysian airlines is sending everybody home. this is the support network that everybody has developed. any trace of me is not there. i did not kill my friend. welcome back to "new day." the kremlin says peace is doomed in ukraine amid new violence there. there's a crate caitical meetin the white house today. trying to find a diplomatic solution to that situation. over night, ukraine says two of the military officers were killed. an russian state media reports one separatist was killed as well. let's check in and get there with senior international correspondent nick paton walsh live in a hot spot right now in eastern ukraine. nick? >> chris, behind me is the
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outskirts of the seat of all this unrest, slaviansk. ukrainian troops have moved in substantial number. they've taken up positions on the bridge behind me. interior ministry says nine such things are happening around the city encircling it if we can believe what he has to say. here's the major problem they face. taking up positions but find themselves surrounded on both sides by angry locals. fuel fueled perhaps by one old man who got in their way and legs were injured and the ambulance took him away. and then occupiers who have turned the up here representing the government that don't like or trust. we're seeing them arrive here in greater and greater number. helicopters overhead. one dropped off 10 to 15 more troops to fortify this position. they brought in a truck of protesters to block this road. this will remain tense and hostile. if there is bloodshed that could potentially spark those russian troop on the other side of the border to intervene. this really is the flash point
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and many concern what started today ukraine's army finally moving in against the pro-russian mill tantsz that thisbeginning of a much more disturbing chapter. now let's talk about the latest on the l.a. clippers. they're going to need a seventh game to decide the playoff series against the warriors. warriors staying alive with a thrilling 100-99 win in game six overnight. meantime, a committee of nba owners agreed to move forward as they put it as expeditiously as possible with the process of forcing donald sterling to sell the clippers. this as espn is reporting that sterling has been battling cancer. cnn has not independently confirmed that report though. ted rowlands is live in los angeles with the new developments surrounding this latest bit of how to get sterling out. ted? >> good morning, kate. the players last night were told that donald sterling may have cancer and they all reacted.
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a lot of players had empathy. dock rivers said he didn't know how to react as he was told that news. meanwhile, the ten-member committee of nba owners voted yesterday to move forward with the process to oust sterling as an owner. they will meet again next week. here in los angeles the president of the naacp has resigned. you remember that the naacp l.a. chapter was going to award sterling with a lifetime achievement award. there was such backlash the president decided to step down. here game seven you mentioned will be played here in los angeles on sunday and now the clippers seem to be everybody's favorite team monitoring how they do on the court and off. chris? >> thanks so much. shocking news coming out of washington this morning. about sexual assault in the military and on college campuses. the pentagon says sexual assault reports in the armed services jumped 50% last year as federal
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investigators are looking at 55 colleges and universities to see if they broke any law in how they are -- have handled and are handling sexual violence and harassment complaints. let's talk about all this and learn more about these reports with jean casarezjoining us with more. good morning, jean. let's talk about the report on colleges and universities. this is coming out from the department of education. it's really, as i understand it, the first comprehensive list of colleges and universities that are under investigation, current probes going on. >> made public. a list has never been made public before. 55 universities around the country. 27 different states. you're looking at harvard university, harvard law school, arizona state university -- >> all of the way down to community colleges. >> all across the country. now, anyone can make a complaint. so there is not any confirmation of wrong doing. the investigation is that they
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have not been as per title nine looking into sexual violence and sexual harassment claims. so the probe is continuing. now, since the facts were not out, cnn confirmed in february six schools, colleges and universities around the country, that their sexual assault complaints had tripled since 2009. columbia university, 23 students filed complaints and we know a little bit about what those complaints were, that they discouraged the reporting. the university did. that they allowed the perpetrator to remain on campus. the sanctions were not adequate. there was discrimination against sexual orientation in these complains. and so what's interesting is this coincides with the president's task force on preventing sexual assault against students in came out in 2011. but it is very close in time and so the question is what's really happening on campus snes. >> any spotlight that can be put on this issue i think is important, that that task force that you're talking about, one
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number that so stuck out to me they found nearly 20% of female college students have been assaulted. 20%. but only 12% of cases were reported. still today that just blows me away. but here's my question about this report. it's important that it's out there, that we're talking at it, that they're finally releasing this list to the public to put pressure on universities to do a better job. what's worse is you're going to report a sexual assault than not only are you dealing with that, you're dealing with the university maybe that wasn't going to handle it correctly. but they say just as quickly that the fact that you're on this list does not mean that you have done anything wrong. >> yes. >> where is the teeth? what is going to happen here? >> i think that we'll see what becomes public. you know, when i covered the jerry sandusky case. became aware quickly that money, the donations, were very important to the college. and so you don't report things.
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you keep things under the table. and so they don't come to light. we don't know if that's what's happening in this country. but you're right, the national center of justice says one in five students, female students, are sexually assaulted. it's not only females, it's males, too. >> before we go i got to ask you about this report coming out of the pentagon. i want to put up the graphic if we have it about how sexual assaults in the military, they've jumped 50% last year. what is the pentagon saying they're going to do about it? i know there's action they've been trying to have happen in congress that have failed so far and to change how proout prosecutions are handled and the pentagon has resisted that. >> the pentagon is saying we want to make our own changes internally. the time and the clock is ticking away and that's not happening. as you're saying now, commanders have all the say in this which makes it very subive because they have known the people that they will determine go to trial, determine only get a plea bargain and plea deal. you're right, senator gillibrand
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has wanted that to be prosecutors and not commanders. >> championing that issue as well. the pentagon continues to resist it. the issue continues unfortunately. we're still talking about it. >> yeah. >> thanks so much, jean. >> interesting, gillibrand was confronted with female senators who didn't want to bill. it's a big reason it stalled out. that will go on. that's for sure. want to tell you about disturbing details about a minnesota teen who police say was plotting a killing spree against his own family. now, the good news is the alleged massacre was avoided thanks to someone who decided to drop a tip. police say after they got that tip they were able to move in and this was just weeks before the teen was set to carry out the plot. here's cnn's george howell with this story. >> reporter: from the deadly shooting rampage at columbine high school to the killings on the virginia tech campus, and the heart-breaking loss of young lives at sandy hook, these events all allegedly served as
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inspiration for a 17-year-old in minnesota, a student who authorities believe had twisted plans of his own. >> his plan was to kill his family members, start a diversionary fire no distract first responders and travel to the junior/senior high school. once there, he intended to set off numerous bombs during the lunch hour, kill the school resource officer as he responded to help, set fires and shoot students and staff. >> reporter: a violent plot aborted by a resident who reported what she believed to be suspicious activity at a storage facility. that led police to the teenager in a locker with bomb making materials. everything from pyrotechnic chemicals to steel ball bearings, gunpowder, and ammunition. also at his home -- numerous guns, ammunition, prepared bombs, and paperwork documenting his plans were recovered and removed from the
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home. >> reporter: the investigation started march 24th when police began discovering exblows shif devices at an elementary school playground, a place that seemed to be his testing ground. they believe his final blueprint was to target waseka junior and senior high school and he expected s.w.a.t. teams to kill him. a plan officials say he originally wanted to carry out on april 20th to commemorate the massacre at columbine but didn't because it was easter sunday and school cuss not in session. >> we can either believe that this occurred as a result of a lucky break or, as i do, choose to believe that god was looking out for all of us. >> reporter: a small minnesota town thankful this day to have apparently avoided becoming one more in a long list of tragic school shootings. george howell, cnn, chicago. >> a lot to be thankful for. george, thank you for that report. new response from officials
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this morning following the release of malaysia's report on the disappearance of flight 370. the responding to what the report reveals about a delay in emergency response after the plane went missing. this as family members are venting their frustration as you can see after being told to leave beijing where authorities have been briefing them since the plane went missing. will ripley is in kuala lumpur and has all the latest on the new information. will? >> kate, for the first time malaysian officials are answering specific questions about that controversial report. the slow response and also that theory floating out there and possible wreckage far away from western australia. >> since we said since the beginning we have nothing to hide. >> reporter: new this morning malaysian officials are difficult missing claims of a private company about possible wreckage in the bay of bengal, several thousand miles from the search zone. >> many of these prove to be negative and this is similar to
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what we have done before. >> reporter: breaking overnight, news of a tri lateral meeting on monday between australia, china, and malaysia. >> we certainly are committed as three nations, i believe, to find mh370. >> reporter: the next step, a daunting deep sea search off western australia. eight to 12 months. estimated $60 million and more assets joining the bluefin-21. which so far has found no sign of the missing plane. air traffic control audio of those haunting final words from the cockpit just seconds before the plane's tracking devices were switched off. this new report detailing the hours of confusion that followed. 17 minutes before anyone noticed the plane disappeared from radar. another four hours of inaction in the control towers, before search and rescue is activated. >> why 17 minutes? this is what i thought, that's
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up to the investigation team to study, to investigate. >> reporter: meantime, more heartbreak for the families of flight 370. during this meeting in beijing, learning malaysia airlines assistance centers are closing in just a few days, forcing them to go home without any answers about the plane or the 239 people still missing eight weeks later. two other pieces of new information breaking within the last couple of hours here. malaysia airlines admitting the technology they were using to track 370 was similar to the flight tracker that you have on your cellphone. that's why they thought the plane was in cambodia when, in fact, it was far away from that area. also, when asked about that 17 minutes before anyone noticed the blaplane disappear fred rad we are told there is going to be a serious investigation of protocol to make sure that would not happen again. >> will ripley, thanks so much for that. in north korea, new satellite images seem to show the country may be testing the
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engine for a possible nuclear missile. this according to analysts at john hopkins university. this comes amid warnings kim jong-un's regime could be drawing closer to another nuclear test despite stern international opposition. seattle mayor rob ford flown to chicago to seek help for his admitted problems with control. ford made the decision following reporters of a new video allegedly showing ford smoking crack for a second time. now, it's unclear what is in the pipe that the mayor is holding or if he smoked from it. ford's brother says the mayor will spend at least 30 days in treatment. got to show you some stunning pictures of an unusual phenomenon way up in northern michigan. waves of ice washed ashore in the peninsula. residents say it started kind of slowly over the course of of a day. it overtook the neighborhood. one of the local people called it an ice tsunami. some homes were damaged even you
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can see there. nothing major. can you imagine seeing that coming at you? >> no. i hope we never have to see that. >> and then look at this, too. it just bent poles. >> weather winds. >> mother nature. >> every time. >> every time. she is amazing. gives you perspective. >> really does. >> we're just little humans. >> the normal cold, normal change of seasons is what's supposed to happen because it can always get worse. coming up next on "new day," malaysian officials this morning responding to new questions coming from the initial report that they released on flight 370. they say they have nothing to hide, so what's missing from the report? we'll discuss. democrats clearly having trouble explaining those newly released benghazi e-mails as one former top white house staffer put it, dude, that was two years ago. is that the right at tuesday? we're going to have more when we go inside politics, dude. be a sound sleeper, or...l you a mouth breather? well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly
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there's a lot of speculation out there for what this all means for l.a. clippers owner donald sterling. what can be done to him and what can he do in response? let's get some straight answers. let's bring in jeffrey toobin, former federal prosecutor. thanks for joining us. let's get to just some straight, you know, question and answer here. can the nba owners vote and have his team taken away from him by
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forcing a sale? >> yes. 3/4 of the owners are needed for that vote. yesterday there was a committee meeting of nine of the top owners that voted unanimously to move in that direction. it's all moving that way. >> right. and to be clear, the context of this being about racial comments and they were recorded in private and maybe that recording was improper, none of that is relevant in terms of assessing whether they can do this. the answer is still yes. correct? >> absolutely. the by laws, the constitution of the nba which is now public, clearly gives the owners that power. >> we may not like it. it may get the person in trouble who did the recording. but that is neither here nor there. the next thing where there's confusion, oh, but he can hold it up, he will take to the courts. jeffr jeffrey, he is a lawyer and you know what basturds they are. he can stop this and make it last forever. that's not really true, is it,
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under this crack? >> well, it's very, very unlikely. let's put it that way. this is not about free speech. this is not about, you know, what the government can or can't do. this is simply a matter of a contract interpretation. "dancing with the stars," like all the owners, is a signatory. he signed the contract with the nba. the nba gives the -- the contract gives the nba certain rights. one of those rights is to take the franchise away from him if three-quarters of the owners vote that way. plus, there is another provision in the contract that says no one is allowed to challenge the contract in court. >> that's right. in light of all that, i can't imagine any court stopping it. but, of course, this is america and anybody can file a lawsuit but it seems like this would be a futile one. >> the only loophole is that you can file an antitrust claim because it goes to the exercise of federal law. and if you look at this
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situation, it only goes antitrust to someone polluting, coming together, conspireing to restrict his ability to compete. i don't know how this would fit in that box. let's leave that to the side. and now let's look to history, jeffrey. here's the most troubling part of precedent in terms of what might happen here. this happened before. 1982. they catch the same guy on tape, almost the same way, clandestine recording. however he's talking about something very different. he's talking about how if his team loses a bunch of times they get a better draft pick. and there are some allegation that he's not paying on time. business improprieties. they vote and say they're going to take his team just like they say they're going to do now but it never happens. why? >> because the effort ran out of steam. i mean, that's really what happened. the nba got very angry when they learned of sterling's comments, essentially saying we're going to throw a bunch of games so we get a top draft pick. but sterling successfully kicked
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the can down the road and the nba wound up saying, you know what, we're just not going to pursue it. we think he's going to do a good job. he'll be a good boy. so that -- how did he kick it down the road? how did he do it? >> he basically -- he said, i'm going to reform. he said that you misinterpreted what i said on the tape. it was not nearly, not nearly the fire storm that this one is. in fact, that was mostly a secret operation. i think it was only recently that it was disclosed that that happened at all. here, of course, it's a major national news story. if donald sterling is still the owner of the clippers six months from now, we're all going to know that and you have the players, the players alumni, the fans, all up in arms. it's an interesting precedent but it's not really relevant. >> also legally important for people, another point of speculation that goes a little amiss, even if he holds his ownership and the family trust,
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it doesn't matter because once the league votes and takes ownership of the franchise, they designate the owners. they can exclude his entire family. they can do whatever they want and open it to bidding. jeffrey toobin, thank you. i know it was hard for you to get to us this morning. have a good weekend. coming up next on "new day," amanda knox invising once again she is not a murderer. stay tuned for the one-on-one with her. coming up, we're going to speak with an investigative reporter who has covered every angle of knox' saga to get her take. hollywood takes over washington this weekend. they call it nerd prom for good reason. time for the annual white house correspondents association dinner. we'll see how corporations are getting in on the action now.
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welcome back to "new day." half past the hour. we'll look at your headlines. russia says there's no hope for a diplomatic deal in ukraine. that's following two helicopters that were shot down as ukraine launched an assault against separatists. two ukrainian officers and a separatist were killed in today's violence. president obama today will meet with german chancellor angela merkel at the white house. their goal, to find ways to diffuse tensions in ukraine. taking it to the limit. to clippers and warriors need a seven tth game to decide their nba playoff series after golden state won a thrilling game six. 100-99. a group of nba owners agreed to move quickly on removing donald sterling as the owner of the clippers. an espn report says that 80-year-old sterling has been
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battling prostate cancer. cnn has been unable to confirm this. officials say the new search for malaysia flight 370 could take up to a year. they also say it firms a claim that the plane could be in the bay of bengal is lie hily unlikely. this comes after the release of malaysia's preliminary report left many questions unanswered for families including a lack of early communication. malaysian officials say it's time for everyone to accept reality and for families to head home. chris, kate, those are your headlines. that's a hard thing, too, because one of our reporters brought up is some of those families, i think it was sarah bajc, said that some of the chinese families are heading back to rural areas where's they won't have internet access readily available to them and they won't be able to get those updates easily. >> how are they going to get the greater communication out there. >> yeah. a challenge for sure. >> decision to make everybody happy. the unknown is often that way. that's why we just keep pressing and the answers will come when they come. >> we hope.
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how about some answers on politics? it's difficult but we have the right man on the job. "inside politics" on "new day" with mr. john king. >> tgif. back to you in a few minutes. busy day to go inside politics. with me is anna of politico, john nonmartin of the "new york times." we've been talking about the dust up over benghazi. republicans say a newly released white house e-mail that is only in the public domain because a conservative group sued the white house. they say it's a smoking gun about the coordination in the white house about how to explain what happened and what the republicans say is what didn't happen. an ek kus for what happened. listen to the democratic and the white house response to this republican uproar. >> what we have seen since hours after the attack, after the attack beginning with a statement by the republican nominee for president is an attempt by republicans to politicize a tragedy. and that continues.
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>> i haven't seen that but what i will say is, again, diversion s subtifunlg. benghazi, why don't we talk about something else. >> dude, this is like two years ago. >> anna, the republicans want to call john kerry to testify. they are saying if they talk about the senate they would like to have a committee to look into it. the democrats saying with the white house taking the lead, old news, old politics. who is right? >> this is red meat for the republicans. when they're looking at the november elections they want to turn up the base. this is what they do. you talk to republicans on the hill and they will keep pressing the points. democrats are trying to make light of it almost. i don't know whether that's going to probably almost inflame the right even more. >> risky to make light of it. ambassador and three other americans died in benghazi. this e-mail comes out. the part i don't get is if you're dealing with this months ago or a year ago at the white house, why not just throw everything out there and say, were we perfect? no. is there a conspiracy? no. >> that's always the danger of
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the politicians risk when they drip and drab stuff out like this instead of putting it all out at one time. what you're seeing among the democrats that you showed us, sort of private xas rags and mockery of going public. eye rolling manner. sort of an air public fixation. i agree, i think it is dangerous because of the very grave nature of what happened there. politically in the short term, anna is right. this is a -- >> lindsey graham is mocking those, the republican senator, a t t lo of his democratic critics say he's only talking about this every day because he has all the tea party primary challenges back home. he says it's not the case. he says when the white house, well, this one document wasn't spe specifically covered we the subpoena. here's his take on that. >> i guess he believes that to say this wasn't trying to shake the benghazi story is inconsistent with the document itself flies in the face of the
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facts and yet another insulting misleading lie. >> he also said in a radio interview, anna, white house officials are scum bags who lie. pretty hard to get to the factual bottom of something when everything is so inflamed and distrust is so high. you have republican leading republican senator calling white house officials scum bags. the white house clearly has disdained fr from the republicans in congress who want to do this oversight. can you ever get to the place where the american people would feel comfortable they turned over every rock and here are the findings? >> this is not a dialogue. you have democrats making light of it. you have scum bags. they're going to be throwing barbs back and forth. i don't think anything in terms of getting to the who t tbottom is going to come forth. >> i think it's so caught up in the election year politics it's hard to see much happening. but it's does strike me as a question that's not going away. >> not going away. at least for the election. we'll see what happens if the republican s do take the senate. cnn's jake tapper was in
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crawford, texas, at the bush ranch. it's a great location. the big event yesterday was a wounded warrior ride. something the former president he does that is a great cause to keep wounded warriors physically active, to give them some political support. of course, jake also asked former president george w. bush if he thinks younger brother jeb will join the 2016 parade. >> i hope jeb runs. i think he would be a great president. i have no clue what's on his mind. and we will talk when he's ready. i notice he's moving around the country quite a bit. >> doing well in polls. >> yeah, that's fine. don't mean anything. for him, i can guarantee you he's not looking at a poll to decide whether or not he wants to run. >> my favorite part of having covered his white house is, oh, we don't look at the polls. of course they look at the polls. in this con next,neil bush told
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gloria borger that dad wants him to run. the men in the bush family is trying to nudge jeb to go. mom is sceptical. >> they are on board. he chooses his words carefully and certainly has the backing of him by saying, yes, i want him to run. that is the strongest statement from the bush family. >> yeah. there's no real way that his brother can say he duns waoesn' him to run though. >> awkward. >> if he said, no, he shouldn't run for president. we already had our turn. i'm the kid that got the opportunity. hard to see. mom is more complicated. there it's a maternal instinct about not wanting him to do it again. also gives jeb a fun political opportunity to say, dad's for it, mom's against it, ha-ha. >> the conversation between the brothers bush when jeb getting closer to that final decision. 2014 primary a couple weeks ago in kentucky. one of the tea party hoping to knock off the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. the most of the polling and
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there hasn't been a lot of it. most shows mcconnell with a huge lead. invested heavily in this. look here. this web video from the matt bev vin, tea party challenger campaign, priceless to me if only for the fact that we see a very young mitch mcconnell. >> kentucky senior senator voted 20 times since he's been there for spending money that we didn't have. in other words, increasing the debt ceiling or for budget deficits. >> with the antiincumbent sentiment out there one would think that you could get some power out of that, to show a guy much younger. now he's in washington. call into question votes that you say are inconsistent. and yet if you talk to people down there, anna, look at what's available in the public polling it doesn't look like matt has a prayer. >> i don't know, i was talking to some of mcconnell's former aides this week and trying to figger out, how close, are they worried, concerned. this is a little bit too little too late. i think they think he's going to be fine in the primary in the next week and a half or so.
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>> look, it's -- it's fun watching the old clip there from '84 when mcconnell was the only gop senator to win a challenged race. democrat in the country that year. the fact is that his opponent has not raised money. outside groups have not come in with money for matt in which mcconnell knows how to win a primary in that state. he has a real challenge ahead of him trying to overcome some really bad approval numbers to win re-election this fall. the best thing he has going for him is that president obama is unpopular as he is in his state. >> prom weekend in washington, d.c. the white house correspondents dinner is? weekend. you write a piece in politico not so much the hollywood angle but the corporate money angle. talk a bit about that. >> absolutely. what we have seen is the explosion of all of the corporations, these fortune 500 companies, microsoft, viacom,
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aol, influencers. it's a soft lobbying that you see. >> buying reporters and politicians drinks and hoping maybe down the road, better covera coverage? >> t t no necessarily they're going to be -- >> access. >> access. not necessarily in terms of creating a deal attempts but much more of that soft kind of brand embellishment. >> nothing sacred, john. the next thing you're going to tell me a white house selfie was sponsored bay cellphone company or something crazy like that. >> thanks for coming in. back to chris and michaela and kate in new york. there are some people who say reporters are supposed to stay way on the other line, not minkle and mix like this. others say, come on, it's a drink and a little music. that debate will not end this weekend. >> i think we all agree. we all have good enough split personality that we can have fun, we can yuck it up and still be as mean to the politicians the next day as we need to be. right? >> i personally think the process has been put on steroids
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too much but that's just my opinion. >> amen, my brother. and there's no -- >> the purist. >> it's no irony the people that attack politicians for their allegian allegiance, the media, is much more qui t it when there's a corporal allegiance attached to one of those events. >> kill his mike. >> john king m a very good weekend. coming up on "new day," i will never truly be free. stunning revelations from amanda knox in our exclusive interview seven years in the italian courts and now they're taking one more shot at her. can she fight them off? do you buy amanda knox' story? you'll hear it straight ahead.
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we're already having a conversation about the amanda knox interview because it has been provocative. why? she's answering the new reasons being offered for why she is a killer. an italian court went further than ever in this saga against knox. not only is she guilty but she dealt the fatal blow and the theory of the case that had amanda as a sex crazed drug addict, that's out. but there's a new one. a fight over money with her roommate,s that why it happened. that's what this new judge is saying is all fact. joining me now to talk about it the nina burlily, award winning investigative journalist and the author of "the fatal gift of beauty" about amanda knox and this process. a very, very deep look at this
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situation from its start. now seven years ago. so, initial impressions, what you heard in terms of amanda knox pushing back against these latest discoveries about her by the judge, are you compelled? >> well, she's, you know, this is the seventh year, as you've said. i'm compelled from the amount of information that i collected for my book over the years, compelled to say that the latest report from these judges is completely illogical. it's laughably illogical. >> he says there is no other conceivable explanation for what happened other than what i'm saying in this ruling. >> and there is another conceivable explanation. and they ignore it completely. they ignore completely the fact that there's no physical evidence that amanda knox and rafael were not room where
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meredith kercher bled to death. there is a person who has confessed to being in the room when she bled to death, whose fingerprints are all over the room, whose dna is inside meredith kercher's body, who had a history of breaking and entering. the house had a broken window. i mean, that's -- that's the case. it's a very simple case. it's a man on woman violence. and this is a common thing in the world, worldwide, and they just ignored it. >> a key piece of sound. play the sound of amanda explaining why it's not her. >> if i were there i would have had traces of meredith's broken body on me and i would have left traces of myself around -- around meredith's corpse and i am not there and that proves my innocence. >> the judge says here's why.
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there's more than one killer. you were one of them. you actually did it. you struck the blow, the cut that killed her. there's blood all over from meredith kercher and it's in a pattern that shows that rudy gaday had three hands and that he wasn't the one holding her down. now, the for the only people who could be help you and your boyfriend. why? primarily because i don't believe there was any breaking and entering which means the only way you could have gotten in was from a key or to be let we in. i don't think meredith kercher let him in. so that means the only other people with keys around were you because the roommates were gone. it was you and him. he did a holding down because of collapse with his dna on it, the bra collapse. but he didn't kill. it's the kitchen knife, your dna is on it, so you did it and you cut her on the neck and you killed her. end of story. do you buy it?
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>> chris, you've just given the -- this prosecutorial airing once again. they made a mistake. every single thing you've just said has been disproven. the dna on the bra collapse, not there. the knife was something that a cop just picked out of a kitchen drawer because it looked large. the dna is not on it. forensic experts in the second trial where there was an acquittal or the appeal decided that it didn't exist. what you have here is something that happens all over the world. it's not an italian phenomenon. when prosecutors make mistakes they don't like to turn around and admit it. and that's what happened in this case. when they -- they rushed to judgment. when they found the dna and the fingerprints of the actual killer in the room, they didn't change their case. they simply altered it and put this third person in to this scenario that they had. they keep changing the motive.
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look, perusia is a wall mountain town. it's not that much different than small towns around united states. when a stranger comes to town, something happens, they need to get the crime solved. they make a mistake just like in the memphis three, just like the jails in this country are filled with people who dna proves they're innocent. prosecutors make mistakes. what happened here is the italian system, unfortunately, is protecting itself. they've gone back and created completely illogical explanation of what happened in that house. they've complicated. they've put out all sorts of things that have been factually proven not to be correct by independent experts in the second appeal. you've just laid out what they've said, and it's not -- it's not accurate. it's not factual. what's factual is somebody threw a rock through a window, which is found in the -- on the floor of the room.
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>> he diskoucounts it. >> somebody broke in. the person who broke in has a history in town and around italy of breaking and entering in exactly the same way. climbing into an empty house. he thought it was an empty house. somebody came home, locked the door. it was a broken door that could only be close with a key. meredith kercher came home. it was dark. she locked the door. there was somebody in the room getting computers and gear. and he heard her. he was making himself at home. he thought nobody was there. and, bam, they confronted each other. simple crime. >> that's what you think happened. other experts agree. other experts don't -- experts don't agree because of the holes in the story that amanda and her then boyfriend told which, of course, smelled like guilt. and the biggest problem i believe she has always faced was a case of first impression, not legally but publicly. how they perceived her, her actions, and her emotions. and i think that drives perception as much as anything. i just had hoped it wouldn't drive it in the courts.
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in the court of public opinion, that's fine. in the court of law it should be about something else, something better. but i appreciate you doing this. the book, again, "the fatal gift of beauty." this is is is a long and hard look at this entire saga. nina burleigh, thank you very much. coming up next on "new day," there's no debate what that donald sterling said is reprehensible but does the punishment he faces fit the crime for remarks made in private? a debate ahead. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq. this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. during the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. at night and when it's cloudy, we use more natural gas.
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welcome back to "new day." an nba committee agreed to move as quickly as possible to force donald sterling to sell the l.a. clippers, but the question is, is that fair? it begs debate so we had mark lamont hill cnn commentator and mike pescanbr contributor and host of the "slate" podcast "the gist" which debuts next week, take on the issue and here's what they said. mark, start with you. why should this man definitely be forced to sell his team on top of everything else? >> because this isn't private property he owns it's a
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franchise and if you own a franchise as part of a bigger collection of organizations like the nba you have a right to be pushed out. advertisers are pulling out and fans don't want him there. players don't want to play for him and there's no logical reason to stay. >> in the constitution and bylaws it doesn't outline something like this as a scenario to force someone to sell. it's fuzzy. >> yeah. >> mike, what could be the pushback? >> i don't think it's a private property argument. i don't think it's a free speech argument. i think they can do it. what would be the optimal solution for adam silver to have taken. i was disappointed in the firm execution style, he's out, there's no discussion how it got to this point in the first place. >> it seems to me they got to the right place but took way too long to get there. and i think they know this. >> i think it would have been a good business suspension to give the fine and suspension, i do have the power to bounce this guy from the league but i'm not going to do it. i want him to make that decision. i want the fans to perhaps react
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in some sort of protest or the players in some sort of protest. because i think if the warriors had walked off the court as they said they were going to do, that would have been the greatest moment of sports in the last 30 years. it would have had real substance. >> do you think the vote will be open or closed? of the owners. >> i think it will be closed and i don't think it is unanimous. this isn't like congress where your mark your vote for memory and history so voters know where you stood. no one wants to be on the record voting for donald sterling to stay in the league. >> you think it will be private. >> it will be. >> he has to have a relationship with the people going forward. this is a little bit of an easy place for silver to be strong. you can't be strong about a guy who says this type things what are you strong on. but you have to be a little careful here. you don't want to roughshod over the owners and think they are potential bad guys. >> firms of all i think silver took a head count like the majority whip in senate. >> he said he didn't. >> i don't think he did.
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i think he did the opposite. i think he forced their hand. that would be a silly thing not to have done. there's no need to. because he did the press conference first. >> yeah. >> he took the public position. he forced the owners' hands he outmaneuvered them if they weren't interested in taking this position anyway. >> one last thing and we'll wrap it up. he is having a private conversation with the girlfriend, he is saying things that he doesn't want her associating with blacks. no "n" word. he is gracious about magic johnson. is this bad enough in terms of what we've seen with people in race and what has been punished in the past to warrant this punishment now and why? >> to me the troubling aspect of the tapes weren't that he didn't use a racial slur, you can be racist without using a racial slur. the troubling aspects of the tapes they were illegal and everything stems from them. adam silver said you can't ignore them and the bell can't be unrung. but that's a really bad precedent. there's much more complicated things going on here than,
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hooray, the bad man has been smote by essentially a daddy figure which i think is going on in this sterling case. >> final point. >> i don't know if it was illegal or not. we don't have enough detail yet but what i will say based on the tapes alone it would make me say this guy's racist, identify don't want him in the league but i don't think we have the muscle to do it without all the other stuff. >> pleasure. coming up next, hopes dim on a diplomatic solution in ukraine. intense violence leaves three people dead. president obama and german chancellor angela merkel are meeting to discuss the crisis. we'll have a preview in what's at stake on the important one on one ahead. and tune in at 9:00 p.m. eastern for "parts unknown." anthony bourdain is heading to mexico. take a look. >> this quiet little town is about 15 miles outside of oaxaca. the pre-hispanic mexico are
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good morning and welcome once again to "new day." we'll begin this hour with what very well may be a tipping point in the crisis in ukraine. two ukrainian helicopters were shot down during an assault on separatists. russia saying ukraine's use of its military is a crime and saying its calls for a national dialogue hypocrisy. we've got complete coverage for
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you at this hour beginning with senior international correspondent arwa damon who is in eastern ukraine. arwa? >> reporter: kate, the ukrainian military retaking nine barricades outside of the key cities in an operation that began in the early hours of the morning. according to the ministry of defense, two helicopters were shot down. two officers, military officers, killed, a number of others wounded as well. the ukrainian forces at this stage not pushing into the cities that are being held by the pro-russian militants. a lot of the buildings that are under their control are in residential areas are in the center of the city. any sort of combat in those areas would see a lot of destruction and a lot of bloodshed. this coming the day after the pro-russian camp seized yet another building this time where we are in donesk, that is the
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office that has seen fierce clashes but eventually pro-russian militants did manage to control the building after they humiliatingly forced riot police off the scene. chris, kate? >> it gets worse and worse there, arwa. be safe. president obama and german chancellor angela merkel are not giving up hope that there's a diplomatic solution. they'll meet in hours to discuss what can be done in ukraine. let's bring in senior washington correspondent joe johns following this meeting. joe? >> well, chris, they are meeting at a critical time. both countries are trying to put pressure on russian president vladimir putin to deescalate tensions on ukraine. but the obama administration is finding itself walking something of a diplomatic tightrope. merkel is europe's big mediator with russia and she and mr. obama will no doubt discuss more economic sanctions but at some point the question is how much is too much. putting the screws on a major trading partner at some point ceases to be in the interests of the german government.
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germany gets a third of its oil and gas from russia and some of germany's best-known companies, volkswagen for one, have huge stakes in russia. so any type of sanction has a potential economic blowback and it's just a sign of how the west has a limited toolbox in dealing with the situation in ukraine, chris. >> all right, joe, thank you very much for the reporting. let's bring in cnn military analyst james "spider" marks a retired major generally and former commanding general of the u.s. army intillgence center. general, thank you for joining us. let's leave the politics aside and deal with the urgency on the ground. what do you believe the situation is? who is ukraine fighting? what do you think the stakes are? >> fighting two elements really. you do have pro-russian separatists that are in east ukraine, but they're being supported directly, not only in terms of what i would call over-the-horizon support, weapons support, but also they have russian forces are on the ground instigating this and
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these are the folks we've seen routinely that have unmarked uniforms and have their face masked. so, you have professional military forces on the ground in smaller numbers, probably special forces trained, special forces-type operators and you have russian separatists that really just needed a small spark to get this fire going. what it requires is patience at this point and discipline on the part of the ukrainian military. clearly the government in kiev has an obligation, chris, to ensure that this thing doesn't completely spin out of control. and we're looking at the images right now of what you and i would call chaos. >> yeah. >> that has the real potential to spill over and the next image you don't want to see is a bunch of tanks rolling into town crushing a bunch of civilians. so the ukrainian military probably has a task that exceeds their capacity right now in terms of skill sets. they probably have the kit. they probably don't have the patience which is exactly what they need.
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>> now, is this a metaphor some of the footage we're seeing of unarmed people with sticks and stones just taking it to ukraine forces that have, you know, deflection shields, you know, and full-body armor on and yet they're running away? is that a metaphor for the fact that ukraine doesn't have what it takes to deal with this militarily? >> well, absolutely. they do have a military. it's not up to what the russians have certainly. and clearly the acting president in kiev, has got to -- i mean, he's got a tough situation right now. he's -- he's getting international grief not only from the united states but also from russia. he's in the middle. and he's doing his best, but his best is not sufficient. to this task. clearly they are ill equipped to handle this appropriately. >> well, this has been a situation that up until now has just been about tension. now it is about violence and if it continues this way, who knows what's going to happen in terms of the politics. thank you for the perspective. i'm sure we'll be talking about it again. have a good weekend.
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>> thank you, chris, you too, as well. tomorrow night in the clippers/warrior play-off series l.a. failed to close out golden state in game six. clippers' owner donald sterling he's also facing an elimination of sorts with fellow nba owners saying that they'll move quickly to oust sterling from the club over his racist remarks, this comes as an espn report says sterling who is 80 years old has been battling cancer, though, cnn has not independently confirmed this. let's get to ted rollens in los angeles with the very latest. they say they'll move quickly to kick him out. how quickly is that, ted? >> we'll have to see. the ten-member committee you mentioned voted unanimously, and they'll meet again. and last night's game was a unique finish and it continues off the court surrounding donald sterling and his clippers.
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>> we've got game seven coming up in los angeles on saturday! >> reporter: battling until the buzzer. >> oh! >> reporter: the los angeles clippers losing in game six by just one point. >> the warriors stay alive. >> reporter: the game overshadowed by the black cloud of donald sterling, but breaking overnight a new complication. espn and "the new york post" reporting that disgraced owner is battling prostate cancer. cnn has not been able to confirm, but after the game players said they were not aware that sterling may have cancer. but expressed their sympathies. >> if that is true, you know, you know, my thoughts and prayers are with him. i mean, nobody deserves to go through something like that. >> yeah, that's the first time ever. that's truly unfortunate. >> reporter: coach doc rivers also reacting to the news. >> didn't know it until just now. you know, i don't have a reaction to that, you know, i
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hope it's not true. >> reporter: meanwhile nba owners wasting no time in an effort to put a for sale sign on the l.a. clippers. a ten-member ownership committee held its first meeting thursday and agreed to move as quickly as possible on the process of terminating sterling's ownership and planned to reconvene next week. amid the backlash of the controversy, the president of the l.a. chapter of the naacp is stepping down over its since rescinded plans to give a lifetime achievement award to sterling saying in a statement that he's resigning in order to, quote, separate the los angeles naacp and the naacp from the negative exposure i have caused the naacp. and "the l.a. times" is reporting this morning that in 1982 the owners tried to get rid of donald sterling in much the same fashion over audiotape that surfaced when sterling was talking about losing games intentionally. that effort failed. but it looks like this one will be very different.
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>> all right, ted, thanks so much. game seven, golden state warriors and clippers. go clips. just saying. let's look at more of your headlines at this hour. we're learning more this morning by an alleged plot by a minnesota teen to murder his family and bomb his school. police say 17-year-old john david ledoux kept a detailed journal outlining his entire principal. he reportedly was an admirer of the columbine killers. police allege he was just weeks away from carrying out that plot. shocking new findings on sexual assault. federal investigators say they're looking at 55 colleges and universities to determine whether those schools mishandled assault and harassment complaints. stunning numbers also from the u.s. military according to the pentagon reports of sexual assault in the military spiked by an unprecedented 50% last year. little relief could be on the way at the gas pump. analysts say prices may be close
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to peaking ahead of the summer travel season. they cite rising oil production and economic pressures that could force a reversal in the price spikes of recent months. nationally regular unleaded gas averages about $3.69 a gallon. up about 14 cents from a month ago. you mean it's going down? what a nice distribution. >> don't say it. as soon as we say it. >> summer has a strange way of reversing. >> interesting. >> any downward trend. they never gouge. >> nah! coming up on "new day" the new flight 370 report lays out new information about the plane's final flight. it's what's missing that has families of the passengers outraged. we'll break it down for you. in any foods. r really gave much thought to the acidity never thought about the coffee i was drinking having acids.
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that was -- it's basic information that they're going to hand out. >> just the facts. >> just the facts. >> yeah. >> how that arc, how that arc north and south was calculated. >> this is important. >> this gets to the marsat data and that leads to the flight path options. i want to ask you first about the cargo manifest. there was maggosteen but the lithium ion batteries that we know can be dangerous, there's some suggestion in this receipt that we saw that came with the report that there was something, like, 5,400 pounds of batteries. >> right. >> versus what we originally had suggested is 400 pounds. >> yeah. the magical 5,000 pounds batteries that showed up somehow. >> is that typical? i know very little about how much lithium ion batteries should be in the cargo hold of any plane. >> look at it this way in 2010 flight 3707 crashed because it had lithium batteries. that was a mass quantity of
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lithium batteries and these are chain reaction-type batteries once they get to a certain temperature and they short out they'll get hot and put off gases that are flammable. >> does 5,400 pounds fit into the category of massive cargo? >> not compared to 3707, but it still is very dangerous. it can be very dangerous. in the united states they are not allowed to put that amount of lithium batteries onto a passenger aircraft. the faa thought to take it off completely where they couldn't ship them other than by ground, but what happened is there was a lot of fighting and lobbying by the industries that said, no, we still need to ship them. >> this fits to the possibility that there could have been a mass mechanical failure or something happened with the plane. that's not the herery that they're working with, though, what went down, what happened with flight 370. that leads us to how the arc was calculated and where it took us. what do we know now that we didn't? where does this take us in terms of the arc? and that leads us to this map that we've been talking about.
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>> yeah. what's so fascinating about what came out in this report is something that was never mentioned before is the 40 degrees. >> why is that important? simplify it for me? >> because what it does it adds to our ability to put confidence in what they're saying here. to me i still had questions about some of this stuff. there's some presumptions made not assumptions but presumptions which is kind of dangerous because you don't really have a lot of facts there and you're speculating ahead, so i was thinking how did they come up with this spot up here if they had these malaysian points up here. >> yem, go ahead. >> go with the colors here. that would be great, okay. so, they have these points here the malaysian radar. but here you are 200 miles from where that malaysian radar was, it's not picking it up there. you're assuming it goes to this spot. >> real quick before we go to what we don't know. with the data does this offer you more confidence in why they led us down here? >> absolutely. >> okay. >> before this my confidence between one and ten was about at four and i say this because i
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actually have a mathematical gore rhythm that i use for this. but now it's up to about an eight. >> it really did jump. >> significantly. >> that leads me, let me push you on this. what we do not know. what we did not get in this report. we do not really know the speed or atty tude. they are assumptions that they plugged in order to get us to the model. the four-hour delay. we don't know why any rescue effort was not initiated for four hours. the raw marsat data we have not seen and also when the phone connected. let's get to the phone in a second. i want to ask you about the speed and the altitude because this is why i want to push you. how can you be so confident in where we're headed with where they believed the plane ended up if the speed and altitude that they're working with are assumptions? >> well, they're assumptions within specific ranges, specific known quantities as far as how fast the aircraft can fly and at what altitude and how much fuel is burned at that altitude. >> they have to make the assumptions because we don't have the data but they do it all the time. >> it's considered an axiom
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really, something that you don't challenge, because you have to start somewhere in this rearry and so you kind of make these things that are unquestioned. we know the speed and altitude as it relates to that aircraft. >> why aren't we getting the raw data? >> that's part of the question. but my confidence has gone from a four to an eight with the location. this becomes less relative to me because you've added 40-degree mark. >> real quick. the phone call. we know the phone of the copilot connected or was searching at some point. this is an example of many of the details that was left out. does it concern you that they don't have it? >> it concerns me a lot, kate, and here's why -- if this statement of fact, which is really what the preliminary report is, these are the facts that we know, we've confirmed them and we have 100% that they're true. why isn't that in the report, then? it makes me question. did it really ham? or is it that they left it out of the report? there's not a lot that they left out that they knew so this makes me question this a lot. >> it shows us -- >> the fact that it was not in
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the report. >> the report shows us what we know and it more shows us how much we don't know. and how much, yeah, we need to learn a lot more from that. thanks, what we know, what we don't know. we'll copt to look for it. coming up on "new day" the april job numbers are in. we'll bring them to you. and we're going to hear from amman do knox after all these she's still in legal limbo but she's only got one more chance at freedom. how does she ages the latest comments from the judge? there's a lot of discussion going and you'll hear the interview here. stay tuned. man: definitely more murdery than the reviews said. captain obvious: this is a creepy room. man: oh hey, captain obvious. captain obvious: you should have used hotels.com. their genuine guest reviews are written by guests who have genuinely stayed there. instead of people who lie on the internet. son: look, a finger. captain: that's unsettling. man: you think? captain: all the time. except when i sleep. which i would not do here.
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one that actually killed meredith kircher? >> i believe, i mean, i can't speculate what this judge's motivations are, personal motivations or otherwise. what i can say that as this case has progressed, the evidence that the prosecution has claimed exists against me has been -- has been proven less and less and less, and all that has happened is that they've filled these holes with speculation. i -- i did not kill my friend. i did not wield a knife. i had no reason to. i -- i was in the month that we were living together we were becoming friends. a week before the murder occurred we went out to a classical music concert
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together, like, we had never fought. and the idea -- i mean, he's brought up lots of things. crazy motives. >> he doesn't agree with anything that you're saying right now specific to the relationship, right? this judge believes that this fight was about money and that you stole money from your roommate and that that is what started this violent night. is there truth to that? >> absolutely not. he's getting this from someone who is coming up with these sorts of things for self-interest. and the truth of the matter is, one, i had no criminal record, so i am not the type of person who is going to violently kill someone for any reason. and furthermore, i -- i had saved up to go to italy. i was not in need of stealing any money. unlike rudy who was a known thief, who was a known burglar,
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who did this on a regular basis to survive. and why they would think that i was a thief when in meredith's own purse there are rudy's fingerprints. it's based on nothing. >> to step through what he sees as the fact pattern of that night, and literally it almost is like a yes/no list. were you and your boyfriend hanging out in the piazza outside your building that night? >> no. >> did you let rudy into your apartment? >> no. >> were you with rudy in your apartment that night? >> no. >> was there a fight over money with meredith kircher witnessed by rudy? >> no. >> and you're saying to me tonight that what is also impossible is that you were in the room that night and you had a knife in your hand and you helped kill meredith kircher? >> absolutely. because my dna, any trace of me, is not there.
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when you're talking about traces of me that they attribute to the crime scene, they're talking about my dna in my own bathroom or my footsteps that tested negative for blood that had my dna and meredith's dna on the floor between our bedrooms and the bathroom. well, of course, our dna was there. we lived there for a month. it was there. it tested negative for blood, so it wasn't blood. and so it's irrelevant to the crime. but we're talking about the crime that happened in meredith's bedroom. and there is no trace of us. if rudy committed this crime, which he did, we know that because his dna is there on the -- on meredith's body, around meredith's body, his handprints and footprints in her blood. none of that exists for me. and if i were there, i would have had traces of meredith's broken body on me. and i would have left traces of myself around -- around
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meredith's corpse. i am not there. and that proves my innocence. >> it started in 2007. it is now 2014. for you and your life, is it present day? are you able to be present in this day? or are you still trapped in 2007? >> it's definitely a limbo. my entire adult life has been weighed down and taken over by this tremendous mess, this -- this -- i mean, on the one hand i have my life in seattle. i get to go to school. i get to be with my family, my friends, and i'm so grateful to have them. they really help me get through this. and to know that there are people who believe me.
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and then on the other hand, there's this huge weight, and there's this huge struggle and trying to learn each step of the way what's so wrong and how i can fix it. and i guess -- i guess i'm just -- i guess i'm just one of the lucky ones. >> how so? >> because -- well, because i'm actually -- i'm actually supported by people, and people have looked in to my case as opposed to have forgotten me. and people who know about what kinds of things happen to lead to wrongful convictions have come out and said things in support of me. and that's -- that has made a huge difference in my life. i don't feel as alone as i could. >> the debate rages on.
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you have so much to say about what you believe to be the evidence in the case, what you believe to be true about the demeanor of amanda knox, so tweet us with the #newday. i'll answer as much as i can. if you want to see more you can see the complete interview tonight in a cnn special report "the trials of amanda knox" right here on cnn on 10:00 p.m. eastern. all right, breaking news. for real. just in to cnn the labor department revealing just how many jobs were added to the economy last month. chief business correspondent christine romans is here with the numbers. it's a friday. don't hurt me on a friday, christine. what do you got? >> i won't hurt you. 6.3% is the unemployment rate in the month of april the lowest since october of 2008. that's a big improvement in part because some people dropped out of the labor force but also because people are getting jobs. 288,000 jobs created. you can see here the forecast was for less than that and so you had a stronger month. that frees -- that frees -- in
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the beginning of the beginning of the year seems to be thawing and the business services were added and retail jobs and even construction jobs 32,000 there, tend to be higher paid. those are really important numbers there. another really important thing to point out here you had revisions. talked about that february and march freeze. you had revisions higher here and here. and then this number came in pretty much 288 so that's a strong performance. going back to what we were seeing sort of late last year, you saw some momentum in job creation last year. each of these bars is how many hundreds of thousands of net new jobs were created. this really scared us. we thought something was happening here in the economy. >> this. >> but it's improving. >> looks a lot like this. >> that's what you want to see. you want to keep going like this. i want to see 250,000 jobs created every month, but i'd also like to see better jobs created. >> that's the story behind the story. what is that? >> the story behind the story is so many of the jobs coming back have paid less and had fewer benefits than the jobs we lost
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in the recession. the jobless recovery, we're starting to get those jobs back but they're low-wage jobs which is why the minimum wage debate and the unemployment benefits and insurance debate is so key. why the job situation is still so political and critical six months before the election. >> how about long-term underemployed? >> under employment, some people call it the real unemployment rate. still double digits. 12.3%, when you look at the unemployment rate 6.3%, 12.3% is the underemployment, those out of work and working part time but would like to be working full time, people sidelined by the economy. >> and then you have the people that just dropped out. >> then the people that just dropped out. when i look at the labor force participation rate, still too low. you have to have a recovery bringing more people in. i would say there's something for everyone in this report. if you think the economy's getting better, you look at this number and saying i hold you, my business is doing well. i'm seeing hiring bidding wars in some kind of talent and that's happening.
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in some industries you are seeing bidding wars and other places you see people out of work for six months or longer that can't find a place in the economy, that's true, too. >> i feel like these numbers are no longer enough. that's why we need you. christine romans thank you for this. i know you'll get into it on the show this weekend because there's more. >> yeah, absolutely. >> the story behind the story is what matters these days. >> absolutely, thank you, chris. a terrifying landslide caught on camera. you won't believe what happened in baltimore. how is it possible? we'll show you and show you how it happened. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. [ male announcer ] celebrate every win with nicoderm cq, the unique patch with time release smartcontrol technology that helps prevent the urge to smoke all day long. help prevent your cravings with nicoderm cq.
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welcome back to "new day." for the five things you need to know for your new day. number one, russia says any hope for diplomacy in ukraine is shattered after new violence leads two ukrainian officers and a separatist dead. that's president obama and german chancellor held critical meetings to try to find the solution. nba owners have begun the process of trying to remove disgraced clippers owner donald sterling. and the next game is tomorrow night. count on me watching. officials now say it could take up to a year to find flight 370. they also say it's time for everyone to accept reality. and for relatives to head back home. some new images may show north korea testing the engine for a possible nuclear missile amid threats the country may conduct another nuclear test. and at number five, rob ford mayor of toronto is going to chicago. the troubled mayor who has admitted to smoking crack announced thursday he's seeking help for a problem with alcohol.
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we always update those five things to know so be sure to go to newday@cnn.com for the very latest. we've been talking about the raw power of mother nature all week. this week nothing quite demonstrates as this incredible video. look at this out of baltimore. >> that is a landslide. it drags the rolled, cars, light poles, everything down. we are both looking at it. we both can hardly believe we're seeing this. we know there's been a ton of rain, but really, omg. >> that's a whole nother level. we know there's a lot of rain in one day. the average amount of rainfall in april is about 3 inches. they saw 3 inches in one day. some places even 6 to 7 inches of rain in just that one day. but hard to say it's all just that, right? >> right. we know it's been a bad winter. we've had incredible amounts of rain and precipitation and snow. >> right.
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i mean, you're talking about -- let's just talk about that, snow, we've seen double the amount of snow for one winter season. long winter, right? because it's really not winter anymore but either way and 10 inches above average amount of rainfall but even that. there's still some differences it's not just that would do this. >> it would have to be an area that we know some areas are more prone. is this an area that's prone to this? >> this is the problem, right? this is what we're hearing. this is what we're currently seeing like this landslide or sinkhole there's an elementary school reports back in the '80s same street here just on the other side something similar happened. and a lot of the residents were saying they were complaining all winter season seeing the fracture growing bigger and bigger and people coming out and saying it's fine. that's the problem. >> >> look at the before and after. >> how do you go from here to here after you see a couple fractures? there's two things. one is most likely it's probably a sinkhole. you start to see it rain a lot. you start to get a couple of fractures down here.
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you get so weak you get a sinkhole and it completes collapses in. other people will be saying it's most likely the city will want to say it's a landslide. the difference there you are talking about the water coming down the hillside too much pressure on top. it gets so heavy, right? if that slope is too steep, that's what happens and it really starts to go down. there's probably what they're going to say. either way if they were complaining about it they should have put the structural engineering in place to make sure it wasn't happening. it doesn't sound like that's what happened, and that's the concern and the engineers will have to say which one of the cases it was. >> hopefully nobody was hurst. we don't believe anybody was injured and we're glad to see that. kate? >> thanks, guys. now to this week's cnn hero, nathan horton trained professional bodybuilders but when a young man with a spinal cord injury came into his gym that's when he found his true calling. check it out. >> when i'm running i feel limitless. being in motion makes me feel free.
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but there are millions of people around the world that are facing severe physical limitations. they can't be independent. they can't live their lives. i spent years training olympic athletes. one day a young guy newly spinal cord injured came to the gym asking for help. at first i didn't know what to do, but just worked together and he made tremendous progress. take a breath. reach out. reach out. bring it back. before you knew it, my phone rang off the hook. with people asking for help, bring it up. so i opened a gym designed to fit their needs. ready to go to work? the past 25 years i've provided strength and conditioning training for people with disabilities. push. stretch up. nice job. people come to me when they're at their lowest. up, up, up, hold it. rack it. >> awesome! >> come to the gym. and all of a sudden you have a natural support network. i never worry about what they can't do. i worry about what they can do.
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george w. bush is making headlines this morning. the former president sitting down with cnn's jake tapper for an interview and taking on pretty much everything from his presidential legacy, what he's done since office to the potential continuation of the bush dynasty. jake is in texas with more. >> reporter: hey, chris and kate, i'm at the prairie chapel ranch in crawford, texas, this you recall was called the western white house when george w. bush was president just steps from here. i sat down with the former commander in chief to talk about a cause that he vowed to carry on in civilian life making sure that veterans are not forgotten. i happened to even participate in part of his w-100k bike ride. this year it was with 16 wounded warriors. when we talked, he talked a lot
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about why he's been doing this event now for four years but i also got him to open up about his brother jeb and also what as a former pro sports team owner what he makes of the scandal enveloping the los angeles clippers. when you see these men and women with injuries, i know as commander in chief, i read "decision points" you're confident in the decisions you made. as a human being, what do you feel when you see these individuals? you sent them off to battle and the same way i'm sure eisenhower and others that sent people off to battle must feel something emotionally. do you feel responsible for them? do you feel indebted to them? do you feel guilty? do you feel protective? >> i feel -- i feel honored to have served with them. i feel that they're the best america produces because they volunteered in the face of danger. i, of course, feel very sympathetic for them. on the other hand, most of them don't want sympathy. they want help. i am amazed, jake, by the number
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of people that walk up and say, please don't feel sorry for me. you know, i know you did the best you could do. i would do it again, mr. president. >> i talked a lot of veterans as i know you do, one frustration i hear from them all the time is how to deal with their injuries and wounds through the veterans administration system. there was a story cnn did a few weeks ago, i'm not sure if you saw, about delays in treatment for 40 veterans that might have ended up, they died before they could get the treatment. how does it make you feel that when you hear that, when you hear stories like that? >> i think, first of all, va is a well-intended bureaucracy, and as you said many cases are treated efficiently. when you really think about the supply of vets, you've got world war ii vets that are aged, you've got vietnam vets dealing wish issues and now you've got a whole slew of iraq and afghanistan vets. and so people are doing the best they can. >> first of all, big story in
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the news this week about the owner of the clippers. you are a former professional baseball team owner. >> yeah. >> and i'm sure you watch the story of donald sterling with interest. >> yes. >> and wondered if you were an owner asked to vote on a fellow owner's comments. >> well, i never have been. well, i can't remember if i was owner of the rangers when marge schott said terrible things and the commissioner at the time suspended her. there was punishment. basketball will have to sort their business. the commissioner's already made his decision. i'll be interested to see how it plays out. obviously his comments were despicable. >> lastly, i have a little brother so i know what it's like to be protective of a little brother. and my little brother, like your little brother, is much bigger than me. >> yeah. probably much smarter, too. >> he is much smarter than me as well. what advice are you giving him?
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>> you know, i have -- really have not talked to jeb about the presidency. it's hard for people to believe. >> i was talking about marv. >> big marv, my advice is, marv, don't run. you know, i hope jeb runs. i think he would be a great president. i have no clue what's on his mind. and we'll talk when he's ready. i notice he's moving around the country quite a bit. i hope he runs. so, hey, jeb, if you need some advice, give me a call. >> reporter: and i can tell you that this w-100k event is incredibly difficult. these trails built by the former president. it's nothing short of amazing to watch these men and women especially those who are missing limbs bike over this rugged terrain with apparent ease. while i fell off my bike twice. chris and kate? >> you are a better man for it and we acknowledged it.
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all right. let's get your "new day" started especially for the weekend with some good stuff. landscaper lonnie monroe walking home across an overpass spots a man also trying to cross the overpass but he's on the wrong side of the fence. tells lonnie he's going to kill himself. lonnie wasn't going to let that happen. >> that's when my mind said, grab him. don't let him go any further. i grabbed him around his waist and i held on to him and i just talked to him. you got one person right now that love you and want you on this side. >> lonnie holds on to him for two hours. he stays there holding him in place telling him about his life, his experiences, losing his mother, his stepson. the highway was eventually closed. the man was saved and like a lot of heroes lonnie doesn't think he is one. >> would you call yourself a
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hero? >> no. no. it was the worthy thing to do. that's what i was supposed to do and i think that's what anybody in the world would do. >> you are right about it being right. and you are wrong about everyone having done it and that's why you are a hero, lonnie. thank you for representing the best of us. you are the good stuff. and a good weekend to all of you. a lot of news to hear about. let's take you to the "newsroom" and miss carol costello, you're a hero, i don't want to hear anything about it. >> okay, i'll accept that. >> there it is. >> have a great weekend. thanks so much. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," your job, your money. a major new report just out. on just how healthy our economy really is. i did not kill my friend. >> amanda knox in a cnn exclusive. >> i did not wield a knife. >>

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